Minutes, IBIS Quality Committee 05 May 2009 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) ROLL CALL Adam Tambone Anders Ekholm, Ericsson Barry Katz, SiSoft Benny Lazer Benjamin P Silva Bob Cox, Micron * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group Brian Arsenault David Banas, Xilinx Eckhard Lenski, Nokia Siemens Networks Eric Brock Guan Tao, Huawei Technologies Gregory R Edlund Hazem Hegazy Huang Chunxing, Huawei Technologies John Figueroa John Angulo, Mentor Graphics Katja Koller, Nokia Siemens Networks Kevin Fisher Kim Helliwell, LSI Logic Lance Wang, IOMethodology Lynne Green * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Mayer, SiSoft Moshiul Haque, Micron Technology Muniswarareddy Vorugu, ARM Ltd * Pavani Jella, TI Peter LaFlamme Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Radovan Vuletic, Qimonda Robert Haller, Enterasys Roy Leventhal, Leventhal Design & Communications Sherif Hammad, Mentor Graphics Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Tom Dagostino, Teraspeed Consulting Group Kazuyoshi Shoji, Hitachi Sadahiro Nonoyama Liqun, Huawei Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for patent disclosure: - No one declared a patent. AR Review: - Mike look into MeetingPlace issues - There was confusion over how to control the meeting invitation with WebEx - Mike will set up an external test meeting New items: Continued review of the IQ 1.1 specification: 5.5.3. {LEVEL 2} [Ramp] dV consistent with supply voltages - Mike changed the text to: The [Ramp] dV values must not exceed 60% (80% - 20%) of the supply voltage range for non-ECL output buffer technologies. The supply voltage range is either [Pullup Reference] - [Pulldown Reference], or [Voltage Range], if present. This check is not applicable to current mode technologies such as ECL, where pulldown operation is not referenced to a voltage given by [Pulldown Reference] or to a 0V ground. - Bob: This check should be deleted. - It is a sanity check only - 5.5.4 is an overlay check and that is better - Mike: Also, the description of supply voltage to use is not clear - For example, ECL does not pull down to 0V - Bob: the limit could be calculated using -2V for ECL - Both 5.5.3 and 5.5.4 are required for IQ 2 5.5.4. {LEVEL 2} [Ramp] dV consistent with I-V table calculations - Bob: IBISCHK should check this - We could explain the work-around to check this until IBISCHK has it - Mike: The explanation text that we need was deleted when we replaced 5.5.4 with an entirely new check. - Mike: This references 5.5.7, which no longer exists. - The relevant text from that old check should be inserted here. 5.5.5. {LEVEL 2} [Ramp] dt is consistent with 20%-80% crossing time - Mike: Manual checking of this requires several steps: - Find the right waveforms - Determine endpoint voltages - Set horizontal markers at 20% and 80% points - Set vertical markers at the crossing points and measure dt - Pavani: It's a lot of work to calculate this for every model. - Mike: It should only be necessary to verify that the waveforms used to generate [Ramp] look right - If the software calculates dV and dt correctly once, this should be repeatable - Bob: Some technologies do not produce useful dt with Ramp fixtures. - Should be able to check off this test if dt matches any relevant reference - We can work on 5.5.5 next meeting to incorporate this idea Mike: The DAC IBIS summit is July 28 - Hopefully we will have IQ 1.1 released, and make a summit presentation Next meeting: 12 May 2009 11-12 AM EST (8-9 AM PST) Meeting ended at 12:13PM Eastern Time.